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Hershl's Story with  comments

HI, all

I was looking at the stories posted on your blog.

I am a gay man who has lived in a loving relationship with another man for 26 years.

I am glad that I found this site since I was considering becoming a Baha'i.

Now I realize that this liberal, accepting religion loves everyone except people like me and my partner.

There is no place for those who love another of the same sex.

For me, this shows the hypocrisy of those like Bahaullah and those who claim to speak for him later on.

What a shame.

It might have been a noble idea but now has had its dark side revealed.
February 22, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterHershl
Thank you Hershl -

I really appreciate your posting.

A big hug

Daniel Orey
February 23, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterDaniel Orey
Dear Hershl,

thanks for your honest comment. It saddens me in way since I love this faith that much. I also became Bahai voluntarily although I knew about the view on homosexuality. But when I read the words of Baha'u'llah, the explanations of Abdu'l Baha and the ideals, values, and the world view of the Bahai, my heart felt warm, delighted, and totally full of happiness. I became a Bahai eventhough I know it would be a hard way. I think the Bahai community has to learn and I strongly believe it'll develop further on this issue. I know a lot of Bahai in my former community who do feel the same like we do.
But I can totally understand your point of view and your decision. :)
February 23, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterNino
Dear Daniel and Nino

Thanks for your supportive comments.

I know that the Bahai way is very welcoming and sweet. I just wish that I would find a way that embraces all of us with the same love and acceptance.

I am a physician. Today I had a patient who brought a friend of hers, a Muslim women visiting this country. She has fled Syria because of the violence and lives in another Muslim state now. She wears a head covering voluntarily.

I am a Jew and am proud of my ethnicity. I have lived many years in Israel where I visited the Bahai center in Haifa.

I am also an Esperantist and was happy to find out that Bahai have a respect for our international language.

Much of my treatment includes hands on work and talk with patients. I silently pray for all of us while treating and spending time with patients.

The visiting lady was very pleasant and told my patient, in Arabic, that I was a very warm person who loved all peoples.

I told her that I consider myself a Sufi, someone who sees the unity of all people as paramount. I am not a Sufi in the classic, Muslim way but it was the only way that I knew to quickly embrace her in a way that she would appreciate.

I also mentioned Bahai to her and she had heard of it in Syria.

Finally, I mentioned that I am a Jew and lived in Israel and also speak Hebrew. I counted in Hebrew from one to ten so that she could note the similarity with Arabic.

I told her that I love God, our father/mother, but am not a fan of organized religion since I find it divisive.

God is union, love, acceptance. Religion often separates us one from the other and I don't want to pursue that path.

She was very happy and told me that these,too, are her thoughts.

This was what I was hoping to find in Bahai and other communities.

But as a gay man I don't like to have the element of homophobia constantly thrown in my face.

God made me gay and I have nothing to apologize for because of this.
February 23, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterHershl
Thank you, Hershl for your kind words they are a healing balm and most timely. I am sorry that Bahai thinking hasn't progressed to the point where all feel welcomed . I don't believe that it was ever Baha'u'llahs intention to make anyone feel less than human, which does seem to be the intention of those who are so quick to judge. Fortunately, we can still embrace the love of Baha'u'llah in our hearts with or without the approval of His more zealous followers. Best wishes.
February 23, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterMaureen
Dear Hershl,

I would like to see your comments on the "Stories page" so that everyone who stops by will see them - it's easy for things to get buried in the discussion section. I am, however, reluctant to add them to the Stories without your permission - would it be all right with you for me to do that?

Your comments are much appreciated and, I believe, very important. Please let me know if it's ok to add them to the stories on this site. I'm sure that "the powers that be" in the Baha'i Faith monitor this website, and they need to hear what you have to say, as do the hundreds of visitors to this site every month - most people stop by and read but don't comment, so their presence is not apparent, but they are there, listening.

Thanks much for taking the time to comment here.
February 24, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterBarb
Hi, Barb

Yes, you are very welcome to post whatever I have written.

I have tremendous respect for the Bahai impetus in humanity and only wish all of you love, joy, and abiding peace.

I will write more, if you want.

I sent an e mail to the Washington, DC center asking if they have Farsi speakers in their group since I want to study that language.

They never replied so I finally gave up.

It is my wish that Bahais will make it as easy as possible for others to meet with them and join up with them.

Antagonism to certain groups ( ex. gays and lesbians) is not helpful.

I may be wrong but I would think that if Bahaullah really was a prophet he wouldn't have written what he did.

At any rate, the basic message is excellent and welcome. It just needs some fine tuning so that all are made to feel welcome.

Much love.
February 24, 2012 | Unregistered CommenterHershl

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